# Curing Major Depression Using “Clean Language “-A 29 Year Follow Up

There are two audio recordings: The actual intervention in 1993, and the followup interview 29 years later.

There are eight types of depression. This post is about how I treat clients with the most common depression in the USA. It is called,  “Major Depression” (or “Clinical Depression”). People that have this type of depression are unsure why they are depressed. I believe it is always caused by one or more childhood traumas that are mostly not consciously remembered.

I have been using “Clean Language Therapy” for over thirty years. It might be helpful to better understand this posting by reading this post:


In the late 1980s and early 1990s I had at least ten new clients suffering from major depression that had been recently prescribed the new drug called, “Prozac”. All of these new clients were referrals from other previously depressed clients and none of these clients knew why they were depressed. None of my clients had situational depression.

These new clients were told by their family physicians that they had a “ chemical imbalance“. I always asked (tongue in cheek) if they had a blood test to verify their chemical imbalance condition. Their answer was always, “No!” And my response was always, “your doctor must be clairvoyant”.

After over fifty years the “chemical Imbalance” myth was finally debunked in 2022:


Understand me – I am a believer in medications that work! I hope one day a magical pill will end debilitating emotions like major depression. Meanwhile . . . .

After over thirty years very little progress has been made by adding talk therapy (CBT) to a medication treatment. A recent ongoing international study has shown that adding psychotherapy treatment to antidepressant medication does not improve treatment outcomes in severely depressed patients.


In the 1990s over 80% of my sessions were over the telephone. I knew sometimes I missed auditory cues. I alway told my clients when I recorded my phone sessions for my training.

I thought I had destroyed all of these audio tapes, but in July 2022, I discovered a 1993, cassette audio of Mary doing a successful “Clean Language”  session on her major depression. Mary was one of my first clients that I used “Clean Language” as an intervention. I did a follow up audio interview a week after finding this tape. Mary had been suffering from “major depression” for over twenty- eight years and she was able to heal her depression in only one session, but first:

There are two different types of interventions that I use when doing a Clean Language” intervention:

1. I either have the client develop a metaphor of the emotion or I have them age regress to the original traumatic experience that caused the unwanted emotion. I then have the clients reimprint (add resources to) the original traumatic event that caused the emotion  by using the “Back To The Future” intervention. This is a modification of David Grove’s “Healing the Wounded Child Within”. If a client heals the first time they experienced this emotion,  this emotional state will never be re-experienced again with the same intensity. The client is usually under the age of eight when this event occurred.See the previous post:


2. The second type of “Clean Language” intervention is “Working with Metaphors”. This is the type of  intervention was used with Mary over 29 years ago, Metaphors are a container of information. We describe our experiences through metaphors. We did the following to make the successful intervention:

  1. Identify a metaphor
  2. Develop the metaphor
  3. Work with the metaphor
  4. Mature changes

This is the actual 8 minute audio recording with Mary in 1993, and it was one of the first times I had worked with “Clean Language Metaphors”. In this  audio session the emotion “depressed” is a cloud metaphor  in her head:

Below is an unrehearsed follow up telephone interview with Mary 29 years later. The interview was done in July 2022, and is 4 minutes long. Also note she also talks about healing her panic attacks in one session. Yes panic attacks can sometimes be cured in one session.

All emotional states have an origin. Sometimes depression and other debilitating emotional states can be permanently resolved, simply by using a different strategy other than what created the problem. Heal the memory or metaphor that created the emotion and it cannot be re-experienced  the same way ever again.

One in 10 Americans aged 12 and over takes antidepressant medication (over 37 million Armericans).


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